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Quick poll: how many have filed a bug, reported a bug, etc.?
As you read that first point, I admit heartily to being the guy clapping loudly when Andrew said kernel needed to use bugzilla more, and note-taking furiously on the problems :) Kernel is, as he points out, a very special/hard case. An interesting one if nothing else.
Servers generally better than desktops, and desktop not doing too bad, but progress is still too slow, and we're no longer competing against Win95.
Speaking as someone who has read probably 10K+ stack traces in bugzilla, I can't argue with Andrew about the insanity of using C for desktops ;) Some numbers...