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	<title>Luis Villa &#187; New York</title>
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		<title>what I have been up to</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/10/13/what-i-have-been-up-to/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of people I saw in Boston were asking &#8216;what have you been up to&#8217; instead of the usual &#8216;sounds like things are good from your blog&#8217; :) I guess I&#8217;ve been a little quiet here about me, personally. So some updates: School is generally good; the first two years ended up being very successful [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of people I saw in Boston were asking &#8216;what have you been up to&#8217; instead of the usual &#8216;sounds like things are good from your blog&#8217; :) I guess I&#8217;ve been a little quiet here about me, personally. So some updates:</p>
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<li>School is generally good; the first two years ended up being very successful (low honors first year; high honors last year.) This year I planned to throttle back to have more time for outside projects, so I am taking fewer credits than ever. Unfortunately, I seem to have chosen those credits poorly so I am doing more work than ever. Hence, not much time for outside projects :/</li>
<li>Will spend the summer studying for the bar; location TBD (since Columbia throws me out of housing a few days after graduation.) Yes, the bar is hard. Not <em>that</em> hard- Columbia alums pass the California bar at a 90+% rate. But obviously no one wants to be in that 6-8% so of course everyone studies like crazy. That will be me.</li>
<li>Have accepted a job at Orrick Herrington Sutcliffe starting early fall &#8217;09 in their Silicon Valley office. I look forward to it- excellent firm, excellent people, probably will not <a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2008/09/heller_ehrman_anatomy_of_a_dis.php">implode</a> in the next year. :) Current plan is to work about 50-50 on startups and technology licensing, but obviously the economy may dictate a different balance. Silver lining of the economy may be more time for pro bono projects, of which I obviously have a long list I&#8217;d like to work on.</li>
<li>Am not getting married at GUADEC. ;) Probably a low-key family-only affair followed by big, fun parties in Miami and Boston (or New York?)</li>
<li>Krissa and I are trying to enjoy NY as much as possible before leaving, which includes lots of live performances (Jazz at Lincoln Center, &#8216;In The Heights&#8217;, Deblois, Nutcracker), lots of eating (Caracas Arepas, dinner at a not-so-expensive place with Steve Martin and a guy who looked a lot like Paul Simon at the next table), and lots of family visits and East Coast travel (I&#8217;m in week two of a six week stretch with family or travel every weekend- all four-plus parents, Summit, and a lecture at Duke.)</li>
<li>Krissa is good- loving her job still; enjoying NY; looking forward to going home to California. Currently in Turkey biking with her mom, else she&#8217;d have been in Boston and in Durham next weekend.</li>
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<p>So yeah, life is good. Crazy, but good. Not sure I&#8217;d have it any other way.</p>
<p>Apologies to everyone who I said I&#8217;d see this morning at Summit; unfortunately I had to change my train to a pretty early train and overslept, so pretty much ran from hotel to train. Next year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Software Freedom Day event in New York City</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/09/07/software-freedom-day-event-in-new-york-city/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[James Vasile asked me to pass along that the Software Freedom Law Center is having a reception for Software Freedom Day. Details are at his blog (which is worth subscribing too- low volume, high value when something is said. (I&#8217;ll try to make it, but my brother will be in town, so&#8230; possibly not.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Vasile asked me to pass along that the Software Freedom Law Center is having a reception for Software Freedom Day. Details are <a href="http://hackervisions.org/?p=31">at his blog</a> (which is worth subscribing too- low volume, high value when something is said.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ll try to make it, but my brother will be in town, so&#8230; possibly not.)</p>
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		<title>Deblois plays NYC!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My sister Deblois will be playing her acoustic-folk-blues-surf-rock in New York City on Friday and Saturday nights; details here or below the fold. (Some sample music here; buy here.) Krissa and I will be at both shows; let us know if you want to join us! Friday, September 5th, 2008 THE NATIONAL UNDERGROUND 7pm 159 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister Deblois will be playing her acoustic-folk-blues-surf-rock in New York City on Friday and Saturday nights; details <a href="http://www.debloismusic.com/calendar.html">here</a> or below the fold. (Some sample music <a href="http://www.debloismusic.com/music.html">here</a>; buy <a href="http://www.debloismusic.com/products.html">here</a>.) Krissa and I will be at both shows; let us know if you want to join us!</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><img title="Deblois in Miami" src="http://tieguy.org/pics/15869-2/IMG_1762+_Modified_.JPG" alt="Deblois in Miami" width="400" height="293" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Deblois in Miami</p></div>
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<h2>Friday, September 5th, 2008</h2>
<h3><a href="http://www.myspace.com/thnationalunderground" target="_blank">THE NATIONAL UNDERGROUND</a></h3>
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<h4>7pm</h4>
<address> 159 E Houston<br />
NY NY </address>
<div class="price">Price: 7$ AT THE DOOR</div>
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<p>This club is Joey and Gavin Degraw&#8217;s place, Danny Campbell with me on drums; we will have a great show.</p></div>
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<h2>Saturday, September 6th, 2008</h2>
<h3><a href="http://www.arlenesgrocery.net/" target="_blank">Arlene&#8217;s Grocery</a></h3>
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<h4>7pm</h4>
<div class="price">Price: $10</div>
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<p>Subway directions: F or V train to 2nd Ave exit 1st Ave and the club is one block below Houston St between Ludlow and Orchard.</p></div>
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		<title>spring &#8217;08 new york diary</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a whole variety of reasons (birthdays, my brother&#8217;s extended visit, decision to leave NY post-graduation) Krissa and I have been making a serious effort to enjoy New York over the past few months. I&#8217;ll take the liberty of treating the blog as a personal diary (sorry casual readers), and put here a list of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a whole variety of reasons (birthdays, my brother&#8217;s extended visit, <a href="http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/12/06/if-the-mountain-will-not-come/">decision to leave NY post-graduation</a>) Krissa and I have been making a serious effort to enjoy New York over the past few months. I&#8217;ll take the liberty of treating the blog as a personal diary (sorry casual readers), and put here a list of some things we&#8217;ve done since December &#8217;07:</p>
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<li>theater: we saw <a href="http://theater2.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/theater/reviews/30fabr.html">a puppet show about a Norwegian Jew who died in the holocaust</a>. I&#8217;ve been curious about professional, &#8216;adult&#8217; puppetry since the use of puppets in <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120601/">Being John Malkovich</a>, and when I saw this show reviewed, I knew I needed to see it. Well worth it- really interesting use of the form. We also saw <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart">Patrick Stewart</a> as Macbeth; <a href="http://theater2.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/theater/reviews/15macb.html?ex=1361941200&amp;en=7af98980597a2106&amp;ei=5124&amp;partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink">really incredible</a> despite our not-so-great seats.</li>
<li>flamenco (x2!): for my birthday, I was given tickets to two different shows in <a href="http://www.worldmusicinstitute.org/flamenco/">the New York Flamenco Festival</a>. Really incredible shows both- Eva Yerbabuena had tremendous technique and presence; and Son de La Frontera was uniquely interesting.</li>
<li>jazz: I was unfortunately sick, so I couldn&#8217;t enjoy it fully, but we took in a very good show by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Roberts">Marcus Roberts</a> at the utterly incredible <a href="http://www.jalc.org/venues/allen/index.html">Allen Room</a> at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Also went to <a href="http://www.smokejazz.com/">Smoke</a> a couple times- lots of fun to have a good jazz club less than a ten minute walk away.</li>
<li>museums: we finally went to the interesting <a href="http://www.mta.info/mta/museum/index.html">Transit Museum</a>. It needs an investment to make the signage and layout more modern, but still, really interesting stuff in understanding the growth of the city. Nice to take in while attempting to tackle <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_Broker">The Power Broker</a>. Also went back to the <a href="http://www.madmuseum.org/">MAD</a> for their &#8216;<a href="http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/2008/03/pricked-extreme-embroidery.php">Extreme Embroidery</a>&#8216; exhibit- I think MAD may be my favorite, quirkiest New York Museum.</li>
<li>Brooklyn: after not going to Brooklyn pretty much since moving here, I&#8217;ve gone three times, once for a party and twice for cultural events.</li>
<li>food: we&#8217;ve eaten well. More visits to <a href="http://www.pukknyc.com/">Pukk</a> and <a href="http://www.caracasarepabar.com/">Caracas Arepa Bar</a>- our favorite cheap-ish places in New York. On the non-cheap side, the highlight was a meal at Blue Hill at Stone Barns, <a href="http://krissa.org/blog/?p=39">lovingly detailed by Krissa</a>. It was her 30th birthday, and truly a joyful, wonderful meal.</li>
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<p>And now, a picture of that last dinner, in pre-processed form:</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://tieguy.org/pics/NewYork/StoneBarnsLaborDay/img_4876.jpg.html"><img src="http://tieguy.org/pics/17065-2/img_4876.jpg" alt="Yummy in my tummy." width="267" height="400" /></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Passing on an announce for other tech-interested proto-lawyers: The Software Freedom Law Center is currently seeking legal interns to join the staff this summer.  Applicants should have a demonstrated interest in software freedom and should be conversant in legal and technical concepts related to free and open source software, but no specific prior course of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Passing on an announce for other tech-interested proto-lawyers:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Software Freedom Law Center is currently seeking legal interns to join the staff this summer.  Applicants should have a demonstrated interest in software freedom and should be conversant in legal and technical concepts related to free and open source software, but no specific prior course of study or technical proficiency is required.  First- and second-year applicants will be considered. Internships are unpaid.</p>
<p>To apply, please send a resume and cover letter, in a free and open format, to<br />
SFLC&#8217;s Executive Secretary, Ian Sullivan (<a href="mailto:sullivan@softwarefreedom.org">sullivan@softwarefreedom.org</a>).</p></blockquote>
<p>(HT: Aaron Williamson)</p>
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		<title>i don&#8217;t even know what this means</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Objectivist phenomenology? (Seen on a mail drop box in lower manhattan.)]]></description>
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<p align="center"> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_(Ayn_Rand)">Objectivist</a> <a href="http://obeygiant.com/main_new.php?page=articles">phenomenology</a>? (Seen on a mail drop box in lower manhattan.)</p>
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		<title>only in new york</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NYPD @ Times Square, by Web Phenomenon Joi Ito, used under CC-BY Had a drink with a friend after my patents exam today. There was a van with a loudspeaker outside. The goal of the van and loudspeaker were to remind everyone that a murder had taken place there the weekend before, and that if [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center"><em><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/joi/1885129060/">NYPD @ Times Square</a>, by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/joi/">Web Phenomenon Joi Ito</a>, used under <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en">CC-BY</a></em></p>
<p>Had a drink with a friend after my patents exam today. There was a van with a loudspeaker outside.</p>
<p>The goal of the van and loudspeaker were to remind everyone that <a href="http://www.bwog.net/articles/breaking_incident_at_radio_perfecto">a murder had taken place there the weekend before</a>, and that if they had any tips, they should call the police.</p>
<p>I almost want to give the cops credit for this method of detective work, except for the little detail that the crowd at this bar is a little different at 5pm on a Wednesday that it is at 2am on a Saturday, which is when the shooting occurred. Oops.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m spending today at a conference on user-generated content at New York Law School. Some notes from throughout the day. As usual, these come with the disclaimer that these are not direct quotes (unless I indicate them to be with quotes); as such you should not cite them as the words of the speaker, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m spending today at a conference on user-generated content at New York Law School. Some notes from throughout the day. As usual, these come with the disclaimer that these are not direct quotes (unless I indicate them to be with quotes); as such you should not cite them as the words of the speaker, but rather as my paraphrase.</p>
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<li>You&#8217;d think with all the conference-hopping I do, I&#8217;d have been in the same room with <a href="http://www.shirky.com/">Clay Shirky</a> before now. But no.</li>
<li> Surprising amount of Real Lawyers here, as well as what looks like about 1/2 of the NYLS student body. They make me feel slightly underdressed.</li>
<li>The head of the UK&#8217;s IP office called yesterday to back out of his keynote; opening speaker points to this as evidence that this is a brutally live topic.</li>
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<p>Rest will be below the fold.</p>
<p><span id="more-1108"></span><strong>Clay Shirky</strong></p>
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<li>notes that the distinction between citizen and consumer tells you whether you&#8217;re talking in a political or an economic context.</li>
<li>&#8220;we&#8217;re living through the largest increase in expressive capability in human history&#8221;; compare to movable type; telegraph/telephone; published media; broadcast; now internet. Notes that three of the last four (all except telegraph/telephone) have impacted only a small number of publishers- most people couldn&#8217;t address an audience. Now we can all address an audience. (notes that the &#8216;net can be either two-way or broadcast.)</li>
<li>Q: &#8220;so what are we doing with all this expressive power?&#8221; A: <a href="http://icanhascheezburger.com/">lolcats</a>. A: <a href="http://ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=1085">using google maps to try to topple governments</a>. Same underlying technology/media; so we&#8217;ve decoupled form of expression from media, which (he seems to imply) was typically more strongly linked in the past.</li>
<li>compares google maps of hotornot and the <a href="http://kitab.nl/tunisianprisonersmap/">Tunisian Prison Map</a>; notes that what each are doing is aggregation of small, tiny bits of information into larger, more valuable wholes; so not just increased ability to publish, but increased ability to aggregate.</li>
<li>talks a bit about information cascades creating political action; most interesting example is talking about the fall of East Germany. Point is that now you can broadcast information and create these cascades more easily, and exploit the first generation to create a second generation more easily. Example is an <a href="http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/05/belarus_flash_mobs_a.html">ice cream flash mob in Belarus which attracted police attention</a>.</li>
<li>open question: &#8216;why bother?&#8217; example of the question is twitter, which mostly seems superficial, but in some cases is being used by Egyptian political activists to coordinate.</li>
<li>thinks we need to stop thinking about media as something different from the rest of life- edges between different media forms and life are blurred; private and public also mixed.</li>
<li>question used to be &#8216;why publish things&#8217;; he says very soon (perhaps already) question will be &#8216;why not publish&#8217;. [I suppose this blog is proof of that; if I'm taking notes on the conference at all, I might as well publish them.]</li>
<li>Q&amp;A/response to Clay:
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<li>what about control? obviously you have clash with some content owners; may not exactly be inherent in UGC, but comes up very, very frequently. Example: machinima using the halo engine- what role does MS (the halo content owner) have here? Clay: big issue is how many of the economic/pragmatic inconveniences of the previous generation of media should be recreated in the legal/political system? e.g., it was hard to copy for pragmatic reasons, and so CD manufacturers were really useful people- they made people&#8217;s lives better by solving the very real problem of how to distribute music. But now redistributing music is easy. Should government/law recreate that difficulty of distribution? (of course, framing it in terms of the CD manufacturer makes the answer easy; when you add musicians to the equation, it gets more complicated. Clay distinguishes between the publishing/recording industry and the music industry- notes that RIAA is <em>R</em>IAA and not <em>M</em>IAA. Might want to look to BMI and ASCAP (implied: compulsory licensing) instead of looking to RIAA for leadership; so far have not done that.</li>
<li>moderator mentions Penny Arcade and notes their rejection from real publishers early on, and now their Empire. Notes that copyright didn&#8217;t play a critical role for them (at least early on), since they didn&#8217;t publish in a traditional way.</li>
<li>Clay notes that the amateur-professional distinction is vastly less useful now because there is a gradient in the available content, rather than a clear cutoff between those published and those not published.</li>
<li>Q: do we assume that there will always be centralization of government? As: we may see some small decentralizations, but not many yet, and may have structural issues about it. Will be interesting to see what happens when governments are challenged to defer to self-governing entities.</li>
<li>Q: help! finding things is hard! are reputational filters enough, particularly for news? A: Clay: we&#8217;re used to delegating this reputational filters to institutions; we&#8217;re still figuring out if we can transfer this to other mechanisms. Clay suggests that we&#8217;re going to have to get comfortable with the idea that we&#8217;ll transfer this role to informal/ad-hoc groups. Mentions<a href="http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/"> Global Voices</a> as one example of reputation-by-group, but with the implication that it isn&#8217;t very robust/mature yet.</li>
<li>Q: do you think this will spill over to the real world? A: Clay says he ties his students up in knots by asking if Jane Jacobs would approve of wifi in parks; notes that when you&#8217;re using wifi in a public park you&#8217;ve made them less public- you&#8217;re in your email bubble. Notes that the Times Square Business District will fight tooth and nail to continue to control their image/self as it starts to spill both ways.</li>
<li>Q: what about purely online activities? Do they actually exist/matter? A: well, moveon.org is the most ineffective action group of all time; they send lots of email but that is it. Used to be a rule of thumb on Capitol Hill that one letter meant 2,000 votes back in the district; new rule of thumb is that an email means zero. Must leave the world of the virtual protest in order to have an impact. Discusses the <a href="http://www.nutsonline.com/jericho">Jericho peanut thing</a> as a good crossover- protest needs to be &#8216;high cost, hard to fake, hard to ignore&#8217; in order to succeed. So he thinks you&#8217;ll get more of that.</li>
<li>notes that real revolutions go from point A to chaos rather than point A to point B. So we&#8217;re going to see a lot more chaos, particularly in filtering.</li>
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<p><strong>Panel on Legal and Business Risks to the Media from User-Generated Content</strong></p>
<p>Panel was basically off the record, but some interesting, non-attributed comments:</p>
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<li>one lawyer calls the risk &#8216;user appropriated content&#8217;; says when it is actually user-generated it is fine. Notes also that there is a risk from corporate appropriation of UGC.</li>
<li>thinks that judges will start restricting/limiting the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230">CDA&#8217;s immunity for service/website providers</a>, because the law&#8217;s provisions for harms recovery are too weak.</li>
<li>one content provider says the biggest risk to him is the rising cost of marketing- more noise (he calls it &#8216;mediocrity&#8217;) to cut through to get their message out.</li>
<li>one Very Large Content Provider says they see this as a real opportunity for users to find content, since it conditions people with the expectation that they will search for content, instead of schedule it as they have traditional. Calls it a &#8216;new user habit.&#8217; Notes that many of the big fan sites now have relationships with the media companies, so if they share a minute of a TV show, instead of a full show, the TV media may see that as marketing rather than theft. &#8216;users are doing our work for us on the marketing side&#8217;. Would rather that the content creators be able to &#8216;claim&#8217; the content whereever it is and monetize it instead of taking it down.  (Note that this speaker is not a lawyer; one of the lawyers on the panel says &#8216;I&#8217;m obligated to look at what can go wrong.&#8217;)</li>
<li>someone says &#8216;there is an assumption that everything on the web is public domain&#8217;; that has the ring of truth. Same person says that they are surprised at how little litigation (specifically about defamation) that there is- seems that lot of things that people would get sued over in print media are tolerated on the web. Says lots of factors for this; jokingly says one of them is that your C&amp;D letters get posted, which doesn&#8217;t happen in the print media. Also no deep pockets.</li>
<li>noted that one problem is that UGC is borderless, whereas many traditional licenses are bordered, which makes the interface between them problematic- can&#8217;t promise to give rights they don&#8217;t have, even in the cases where the content owner-ish wants to.</li>
<li>Very High Powered Lawyer admits that maybe it might be a good thing if people don&#8217;t understand the current IP rules; that maybe under new circumstances they deserve another look.</li>
<li>note that there are issues well beyond IP- when everyone is a paparazzi with their cell phone, what happens with privacy for celebrities? What if you&#8217;re the owner of TMZ or perez hilton? Suggestion that there will be increasingly divergent defamation laws between the US and everywhere else, given our free speech tradition.</li>
<li>lawyer points out that if you put a video on youtube you might get hired by HBO, but that there is no equivalent for lawyers- you can&#8217;t just blog, you have to go to law school. (Best laugh of the panel. ;)</li>
<li>noted that what makes the world scary for artists (particularly writers) is that if they go on strike, maybe no one notices.</li>
<li>some discussion about the crossover between ugc and reality TV- what kinds of releases are necessary?</li>
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<p>More after lunch.</p>
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		<title>SFLC legal summit</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.softwarefreedom.org/summit/2007/">I&#8217;ll be there</a>. Drop me a note if you&#8217;ll be there and would like to meet up.</p>
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		<title>still not forgotten.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not much to add to what I said last year. I interviewed a couple weeks ago at a firm whose lobby overlooks the hole, and had some time to ponder it. The site is still powerful emotionally, even six years later, and I think it&#8217;ll always be emotional to some extent or another- as it [...]]]></description>
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<p>Not much to add to <a href="http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/09/11/not-forgotten/">what I said last year</a>.</p>
<p>I interviewed a couple weeks ago at a firm whose lobby overlooks the hole, and had some time to ponder it. The site is still powerful emotionally, even six years later, and I think it&#8217;ll always be emotional to some extent or another- as it should be. But I&#8217;m glad to see some leaders <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/nyregion/11bloomberg-1.html?ex=1347163200&amp;en=a030b43f0297a177&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss">trying to make us look to the future again</a>, even here in NYC, where it is so tempting (and so easy) to focus on the mourning and the pain and <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/giuliani_to_run_for_president_of_9">the past</a>.</p>
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