Comments on: Telling numbers http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/ Ramblings on software, law, and the spaces in between. Wed, 23 May 2012 07:48:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Planet Pgc http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30210 Planet Pgc Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:08:52 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30210 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] a bonus, and related to my recent post about plain english in the law, Wondermark is apparently working with the Center for Plain Language on a contest to reward plain [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] a bonus, and related to my recent post about plain english in the law, Wondermark is apparently working with the Center for Plain Language on a contest to reward plain [...]

]]> By: Groklaw - SCO Proposes Selling its Mobility "Business"... to Darl McBride - Updated 2Xs http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30202 Groklaw - SCO Proposes Selling its Mobility "Business"... to Darl McBride - Updated 2Xs Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:00:23 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30202 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] a bonus, and related to my recent post about plain english in the law, Wondermark is apparently working with the Center for Plain Language on a contest to reward plain [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] a bonus, and related to my recent post about plain english in the law, Wondermark is apparently working with the Center for Plain Language on a contest to reward plain [...]

]]> By: Luis Villa's Internet Home / looking for locomotives http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30193 Luis Villa's Internet Home / looking for locomotives Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:32:48 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30193 [...] a bonus, and related to my recent post about plain english in the law, Wondermark is apparently working with the Center for Plain Language on a contest to reward plain [...] [...] a bonus, and related to my recent post about plain english in the law, Wondermark is apparently working with the Center for Plain Language on a contest to reward plain [...]

]]> By: James Vasile http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30156 James Vasile Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:17:25 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30156 Man, that book tries too hard to get fancy with the words. Instead, it just comes off stodgy and artless. When wannabe Strunk & White start discussing the "language abstruse," they lose me entirely. Man, that book tries too hard to get fancy with the words. Instead, it just comes off stodgy and artless. When wannabe Strunk & White start discussing the “language abstruse,” they lose me entirely.

]]> By: Advogato: Personal info for louie http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30146 Advogato: Personal info for louie Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:42:35 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30146 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Syndicated 2010-02-05 02:11:49 from Luis Villa's Internet Home » Blog Posts [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Syndicated 2010-02-05 02:11:49 from Luis Villa's Internet Home » Blog Posts [...]

]]> By: Luis Villa http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30124 Luis Villa Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:18:04 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30124 Lars: I agree, and the authors of the book would agree too. That is one of the critical arguments for reformers, but change in a crufty code base (both mental and written) takes a long time. Wes: I think it is like the panda who eats, shoots, and leaves ;) Lars: I agree, and the authors of the book would agree too. That is one of the critical arguments for reformers, but change in a crufty code base (both mental and written) takes a long time.

Wes: I think it is like the panda who eats, shoots, and leaves ;)

]]> By: Wes Felter http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30123 Wes Felter Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:14:34 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30123 "fill the ditch with his partners"? Is that a mafia-style "contract"? :-) “fill the ditch with his partners”? Is that a mafia-style “contract”? :-)

]]> By: Bevis http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30120 Bevis Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:05:56 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30120 Huh huh huh huh... "Butt" Huh huh huh huh… “Butt”

]]> By: Lars Wirzenius http://tieguy.org/blog/2010/02/04/telling-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-30118 Lars Wirzenius Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:00:17 +0000 http://tieguy.org/?p=1803#comment-30118 Every country and language seems to have their own variant of legalese. In addition to the legalese in contracts and licenses and privacy statements and such, it also infests law books. As a result, a normal human is often unable to correctly interpret a law. Combined with the size of the legal corpus, it's almost impossible for normal people to know the law so they can follow it. That's not a recipe for a just society. Every country and language seems to have their own variant of legalese.

In addition to the legalese in contracts and licenses and privacy statements and such, it also infests law books. As a result, a normal human is often unable to correctly interpret a law.

Combined with the size of the legal corpus, it’s almost impossible for normal people to know the law so they can follow it.

That’s not a recipe for a just society.

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