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	<description>Ramblings on law school in New York, free software, and the spaces in between.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Running Rails Apps on a Nokia N810</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26938</link>
		<dc:creator>Running Rails Apps on a Nokia N810</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] on by requests for screenshots of Tracks running on my n810, I decided to instead document to the best of my recollection what I did to get Tracks and Instiki [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://tieguy.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] on by requests for screenshots of Tracks running on my n810, I decided to instead document to the best of my recollection what I did to get Tracks and Instiki [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Tao of Mac - The Joy of Webpads</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26640</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tao of Mac - The Joy of Webpads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] I can always get an iPhone, but that’s not my point. I’m not the only one griping about lack of decent mobile connectivity on the N810 [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://tieguy.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] I can always get an iPhone, but that’s not my point. I’m not the only one griping about lack of decent mobile connectivity on the N810 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Altman</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26387</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Altman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do have screenshots somewhere, but even better those screenshots are part of my recollection (I cannot call it instructions, because I did not write down the steps at the time) of how I got Tracks and Instiki running.

http://blog.dotbot.net/articles/2008/02/13/running-rails-apps-on-a-nokia-n810</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do have screenshots somewhere, but even better those screenshots are part of my recollection (I cannot call it instructions, because I did not write down the steps at the time) of how I got Tracks and Instiki running.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.dotbot.net/articles/2008/02/13/running-rails-apps-on-a-nokia-n810" rel="nofollow">http://blog.dotbot.net/articles/2008/02/13/running-rails-apps-on-a-nokia-n810</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jaiku &#124; Luis Villa's Blog / N810 in a nutshell</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26294</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaiku &#124; Luis Villa's Blog / N810 in a nutshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog &#124; ABA Journal - Law News Now</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26287</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog &#124; ABA Journal - Law News Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] N810 in a nutshell [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26286</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan: that is mad, but a great kind of mad. Do you have screenshots somewhere? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan: that is mad, but a great kind of mad. Do you have screenshots somewhere? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Altman</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Altman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually with some work you can get Rails, Mongrel, and Tracks up and running on the n810.  I bought mine specifically to run Instiki + Tracks.  Install takes some work though, definitely not out-of-the-box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually with some work you can get Rails, Mongrel, and Tracks up and running on the n810.  I bought mine specifically to run Instiki + Tracks.  Install takes some work though, definitely not out-of-the-box.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26273</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daniels: it definitely badly needs to break out of the desktop PC metaphor. I was badly disappointed when someone talked about porting it to a traditional PC- it needs to be ported to even smaller devices, not larger devices, so that the UI is optimized for the type of device it is, not PCs.

Quim: I agree that when wimax is pervasive, this will be a killer device. Of course, by that time, iPhone may already be a dominant, windows-like development platform, since it wisely does both cell and wifi *now*. And that time is a long way off; my GSM tri-band phone is basically global at this point (I have used it on three continents, in swamps, and in mountains); it will be a long time before I can just take my wimax device with me anywhere I go and assume it will work.

Mike: the reasons may not be too baffling; the cell companies may not be very happy with a non-crippled phone-wifi combo. (iPhone is very nice, but it *is* crippled.) Still, you'd think (or naively hope?) that Nokia could try to force the issue.

Jon: the whole point is that I *want* it to be a phone. I don't see why, properly integrated, making it a phone would make it any less/any worse at the things it is already good at. Properly integrated, making it also a phone would make it even *better* at what it is already good at.

Battery life, at least on the N800, is pretty good when playing music- 4 hours, at least?

re: storage: my N810 says it has 2G of internal storage, and I can't find any cards bigger than 4G for it. But I haven't looked hard, and maybe I'm not looking in the right places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daniels: it definitely badly needs to break out of the desktop PC metaphor. I was badly disappointed when someone talked about porting it to a traditional PC- it needs to be ported to even smaller devices, not larger devices, so that the UI is optimized for the type of device it is, not PCs.</p>
<p>Quim: I agree that when wimax is pervasive, this will be a killer device. Of course, by that time, iPhone may already be a dominant, windows-like development platform, since it wisely does both cell and wifi *now*. And that time is a long way off; my GSM tri-band phone is basically global at this point (I have used it on three continents, in swamps, and in mountains); it will be a long time before I can just take my wimax device with me anywhere I go and assume it will work.</p>
<p>Mike: the reasons may not be too baffling; the cell companies may not be very happy with a non-crippled phone-wifi combo. (iPhone is very nice, but it *is* crippled.) Still, you&#8217;d think (or naively hope?) that Nokia could try to force the issue.</p>
<p>Jon: the whole point is that I *want* it to be a phone. I don&#8217;t see why, properly integrated, making it a phone would make it any less/any worse at the things it is already good at. Properly integrated, making it also a phone would make it even *better* at what it is already good at.</p>
<p>Battery life, at least on the N800, is pretty good when playing music- 4 hours, at least?</p>
<p>re: storage: my N810 says it has 2G of internal storage, and I can&#8217;t find any cards bigger than 4G for it. But I haven&#8217;t looked hard, and maybe I&#8217;m not looking in the right places.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Blizzard</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26271</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Blizzard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Is it a phone yet?"  I still ask this every time I hear about it.  I would drop my phone in a second if I could get N8xx + phone.  The strangely familiar web browser alone would be killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is it a phone yet?&#8221;  I still ask this every time I hear about it.  I would drop my phone in a second if I could get N8xx + phone.  The strangely familiar web browser alone would be killer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Pritchard</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/01/29/n810-in-a-nutshell/#comment-26270</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Pritchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you say, to be more useful and justify it's existence as an internet device it requires an almost constant internet connection - the inclusion of cellular broadband is something that should really be looked at. But from that point, how far is it to turning it also into a phone? (Granted, that decision would probably miniaturise it too much, and defeat it's usefulness as an internet device.)

I also agree that it needs more internal storage (Regarding another comment, I thought it only had 2GB internal storage, not 4GB.) and I can see it's use as a media device becoming essential as part of my usage case. What's the battery life like when playing audio files?

The most consistent feedback from people, I gather, is that it's now a sleek device. One with good tactile feel, and looks. Something that a person might want to own regardless of knowing it's use. It's got a cool factor about it. That's definitely encouraging and I can't wait to see what the N900 brings along with OS2009... I keep holding off buying one, until it gets near perfection, or at least more justifiable as a spend since I'm about the only person who doesn't have a discount code for it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you say, to be more useful and justify it&#8217;s existence as an internet device it requires an almost constant internet connection - the inclusion of cellular broadband is something that should really be looked at. But from that point, how far is it to turning it also into a phone? (Granted, that decision would probably miniaturise it too much, and defeat it&#8217;s usefulness as an internet device.)</p>
<p>I also agree that it needs more internal storage (Regarding another comment, I thought it only had 2GB internal storage, not 4GB.) and I can see it&#8217;s use as a media device becoming essential as part of my usage case. What&#8217;s the battery life like when playing audio files?</p>
<p>The most consistent feedback from people, I gather, is that it&#8217;s now a sleek device. One with good tactile feel, and looks. Something that a person might want to own regardless of knowing it&#8217;s use. It&#8217;s got a cool factor about it. That&#8217;s definitely encouraging and I can&#8217;t wait to see what the N900 brings along with OS2009&#8230; I keep holding off buying one, until it gets near perfection, or at least more justifiable as a spend since I&#8217;m about the only person who doesn&#8217;t have a discount code for it. :)</p>
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