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		<title>By: 2007 November « pollycoke :)</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/27/gnome-is-humans-jeff-is-human-murray-is-violating-the-no-asshole-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-28122</link>
		<dc:creator>2007 November « pollycoke :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] link a pollycoke era contenuto in un post di Luis Villa ed era ovviamente relativo al mio &#8220;La Situazione del Mio desktop non è BUONA&#8221; in cui [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/27/gnome-is-humans-jeff-is-human-murray-is-violating-the-no-asshole-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-26008</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin, when the &quot;job&quot; you take responsibility of is to accept or reject people for inclusion on the planet, you have to... *shock* accept or include them. Replying, no matter what the outcome, is part of the damn job. If you can&#039;t do it in a timely manner, you should be fired for being a public relations destroyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin, when the &#8220;job&#8221; you take responsibility of is to accept or reject people for inclusion on the planet, you have to&#8230; *shock* accept or include them. Replying, no matter what the outcome, is part of the damn job. If you can&#8217;t do it in a timely manner, you should be fired for being a public relations destroyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudd-O</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/27/gnome-is-humans-jeff-is-human-murray-is-violating-the-no-asshole-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-25843</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudd-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think civility is OVERRATED.  But I also think Murray should have quoted from relevant places when he ranted.  By doing so, he would have proved his point beyond any shadow of doubt, nipped this controversy in the bud.  GNOMErs tend to respond to well-reasoned arguments much better than to explosions of character.

If GNOME is people, then everyone in GNOME needs to be prepared for these kinds of happenings every once in a while.  It&#039;s human to blurt stuff out, and it&#039;s not necessarily unhealthy.  If Murray feels like lashing out to anyone, it&#039;s his biology-given right and people should have accepted it from the outset (the question of respecting his opinion, of course, is something that&#039;s open to pondering).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think civility is OVERRATED.  But I also think Murray should have quoted from relevant places when he ranted.  By doing so, he would have proved his point beyond any shadow of doubt, nipped this controversy in the bud.  GNOMErs tend to respond to well-reasoned arguments much better than to explosions of character.</p>
<p>If GNOME is people, then everyone in GNOME needs to be prepared for these kinds of happenings every once in a while.  It&#8217;s human to blurt stuff out, and it&#8217;s not necessarily unhealthy.  If Murray feels like lashing out to anyone, it&#8217;s his biology-given right and people should have accepted it from the outset (the question of respecting his opinion, of course, is something that&#8217;s open to pondering).</p>
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		<title>By: Valek Filippov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valek Filippov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like they didn’t think it was a problem before.

Yes, they did.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2007-September/msg00004.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like they didn’t think it was a problem before.</p>
<p>Yes, they did.<br />
<a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2007-September/msg00004.html" rel="nofollow">http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2007-September/msg00004.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; links for 2007-11-30</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/27/gnome-is-humans-jeff-is-human-murray-is-violating-the-no-asshole-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-25763</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; links for 2007-11-30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gnome is humans; jeff is human; murray is violating the no asshole rule On a strictly meta note: someone outta write a book one day of &#8220;when the community attacks&#8221; for open source projects. (tags: via:sogrady gnome opensource scandal) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gnome is humans; jeff is human; murray is violating the no asshole rule On a strictly meta note: someone outta write a book one day of &#8220;when the community attacks&#8221; for open source projects. (tags: via:sogrady gnome opensource scandal) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Otte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Otte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, how all these people come out of the woodwork to complain about Jeff, now that Murray started. Seems like they didn&#039;t think it was a problem before. Or were they afraid of speaking up?

Really, I don&#039;t think not adding someone to Planet Gnome is proof of anything about Jeff. I bet there&#039;s at least 50 people that I didn&#039;t answer an email for whatever reasons, even though they would have liked me to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, how all these people come out of the woodwork to complain about Jeff, now that Murray started. Seems like they didn&#8217;t think it was a problem before. Or were they afraid of speaking up?</p>
<p>Really, I don&#8217;t think not adding someone to Planet Gnome is proof of anything about Jeff. I bet there&#8217;s at least 50 people that I didn&#8217;t answer an email for whatever reasons, even though they would have liked me to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://kiddo.ecchi.ca/blog/?p=260 Take a look at this blog from one of my buddies. Jeff Waugh almost turned him off to development in gnome in general.

Murray, as much of an assinine post as he wrote, was correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://kiddo.ecchi.ca/blog/?p=260" rel="nofollow">http://kiddo.ecchi.ca/blog/?p=260</a> Take a look at this blog from one of my buddies. Jeff Waugh almost turned him off to development in gnome in general.</p>
<p>Murray, as much of an assinine post as he wrote, was correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Hello Planet GNOME &#124; TuxFeed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello Planet GNOME &#124; TuxFeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] link a pollycoke era contenuto in un post di Luis Villa ed era ovviamente relativo al mio “La Situazione del Mio desktop non è BUONA” in cui (per chi [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-11-29 [on Simon Phipps, SunMink]</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/27/gnome-is-humans-jeff-is-human-murray-is-violating-the-no-asshole-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-25741</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-11-29 [on Simon Phipps, SunMink]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Luis Villa on Gnome Elections Luis hits the nail on the head, as usual. Classic case of negative campaigning hurting more than it helps. (tags: Gnome) [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; links for 2007-11-29</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/27/gnome-is-humans-jeff-is-human-murray-is-violating-the-no-asshole-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-25737</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; links for 2007-11-29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Luis Villa’s Blog / gnome is humans; jeff is human; murray is violating the no asshole rule good to see Luis outline his position on the GNOME flap in more depth, and condemn the approach taken by Murray. disagreement and criticism are fine things, as Luis says, and no one is perfect. but there is no excuse whatsoever for what was said. (tags: luisvilla jeffwaugh gnome) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Luis Villa’s Blog / gnome is humans; jeff is human; murray is violating the no asshole rule good to see Luis outline his position on the GNOME flap in more depth, and condemn the approach taken by Murray. disagreement and criticism are fine things, as Luis says, and no one is perfect. but there is no excuse whatsoever for what was said. (tags: luisvilla jeffwaugh gnome) [...]</p>
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