Comments on: information is the essence of good elections http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/ Ramblings on law school in New York, free software, and the spaces in between. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:59:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Megite Technology News: What's Happening Right Now http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25784 Megite Technology News: What's Happening Right Now Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:43 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25784 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] not act quickly - showing him as a grown up, and apologizing - he ... GNOME :    Luis Villa: information is the essence of good elections GNOME :    Og Maciel: [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] not act quickly - showing him as a grown up, and apologizing - he … GNOME :    Luis Villa: information is the essence of good elections GNOME :    Og Maciel: [...]

]]> By: ex tempore » Blog Archive » gnome (foundation) weather report http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25708 ex tempore » Blog Archive » gnome (foundation) weather report Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:05:37 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25708 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Luis Villa’s Blog / information is the essence of good elections Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:32:14 PST [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Luis Villa’s Blog / information is the essence of good elections Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:32:14 PST [...]

]]> By: Luis Villa’s Blog / gnome is humans; jeff is human; murray is violating the no asshole rule http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25698 Luis Villa’s Blog / gnome is humans; jeff is human; murray is violating the no asshole rule Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:27:37 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25698 [...] My post yesterday was all too brief. This one will be equivalently long, sorry. Some clarifications: [...] [...] My post yesterday was all too brief. This one will be equivalently long, sorry. Some clarifications: [...]

]]> By: Screw You Enterprise Edition: All is not well in the land of GNOME http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25683 Screw You Enterprise Edition: All is not well in the land of GNOME Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:46:42 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25683 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] you haven't been following the news, basically someone said this. Which lead to this, and also this.I don't really follow GNOME internals much, but I've seen this before. From the recent *BSD riots [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] you haven’t been following the news, basically someone said this. Which lead to this, and also this.I don’t really follow GNOME internals much, but I’ve seen this before. From the recent *BSD riots [...]

]]> By: Chris Cunningham http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25681 Chris Cunningham Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:06:06 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25681 Morten: the argument that calling someone a "psycho" constitutes a medical evaluation of their mental health is preposterous. - Chris Morten: the argument that calling someone a “psycho” constitutes a medical evaluation of their mental health is preposterous.

- Chris

]]> By: bkor http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25680 bkor Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:11:41 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25680 Luis: "I should add that I think not voting for Og is an overreaction". The way I understood his first post, it is not an overreaction. People should be able to speak up and if Og did not agree to this I wouldn't want him on the board (to be very clear: he does want people to speak up). Later he clarified what he meant (although I still don't really see how to interpret his first post different different.. first part yes, the update not). Anyway, to avoid confusion I'll update the blog with this later. Luis: “I should add that I think not voting for Og is an overreaction”. The way I understood his first post, it is not an overreaction. People should be able to speak up and if Og did not agree to this I wouldn’t want him on the board (to be very clear: he does want people to speak up). Later he clarified what he meant (although I still don’t really see how to interpret his first post different different.. first part yes, the update not). Anyway, to avoid confusion I’ll update the blog with this later.

]]> By: Morten Welinder http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25677 Morten Welinder Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:35:12 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25677 Luis, are you unable to distinguish criticism ("the man is does no good for Gnome, rarely keeps his promises, and is very liberal with truth") with outright defamation ("the man is mentally ill")? A court case based on this would be over in minutes and Murray would not like the outcome. I don't think Jeff will go through the trouble, but he could easily nail Murray on the wall. Luis, are you unable to distinguish criticism (”the man is does no good for Gnome, rarely keeps his promises, and is very liberal with truth”) with outright defamation (”the man is mentally ill”)?

A court case based on this would be over in minutes and Murray would not like the outcome. I don’t think Jeff will go through the trouble, but he could easily nail Murray on the wall.

]]> By: Johan http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25675 Johan Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:32:36 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25675 "But he has provided information" That's not clear, at least not to me as an outsider. “But he has provided information”

That’s not clear, at least not to me as an outsider.

]]> By: iain http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25673 iain Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:42:21 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25673 "I think Murray went beyond what is acceptable" I should clarify: beyond what is an acceptable way for a member of society to express how they are feeling. I felt that how I left it before implied that there were things that acceptable for writing in blogs and things that were not...or something, I've confused myself now. Argh. I'll go away now “I think Murray went beyond what is acceptable”

I should clarify: beyond what is an acceptable way for a member of society to express how they are feeling. I felt that how I left it before implied that there were things that acceptable for writing in blogs and things that were not…or something, I’ve confused myself now. Argh. I’ll go away now

]]> By: iain http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25672 iain Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:38:29 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/11/26/information-is-the-essence-of-good-elections/#comment-25672 While I have no problem with anyone using their blog to say whatever they want (how could I really?) I think Murray went beyond what is acceptable and those concerns that he started off expressing about Jeff's suitablity for foundation board became little more than personal attacks designed to hurt. I don't think what Murray did was anything more than what we used to do as 9 year olds in primary school when we'd write "I hate Bob signed:" on a sheet of paper and pass it round the class, making sure it didn't get to Bob's desk... And we got in a lot of shit when we were caught too. A lot of people have jumped on the "yeah, murray's right" bandwagon when the only thing they actually have the ability to agree with is that Jeff is crap at adding people to pogo. But that was one tiny example in Murray's rant. I just think its sad that he did it and that he felt it was the right thing to do, and have lost a far amount of respect for him, and will be trying my best to avoid dealing with him as much as possible While I have no problem with anyone using their blog to say whatever they want (how could I really?) I think Murray went beyond what is acceptable and those concerns that he started off expressing about Jeff’s suitablity for foundation board became little more than personal attacks designed to hurt. I don’t think what Murray did was anything more than what we used to do as 9 year olds in primary school when we’d write “I hate Bob signed:” on a sheet of paper and pass it round the class, making sure it didn’t get to Bob’s desk…

And we got in a lot of shit when we were caught too.

A lot of people have jumped on the “yeah, murray’s right” bandwagon when the only thing they actually have the ability to agree with is that Jeff is crap at adding people to pogo. But that was one tiny example in Murray’s rant.

I just think its sad that he did it and that he felt it was the right thing to do, and have lost a far amount of respect for him, and will be trying my best to avoid dealing with him as much as possible

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