Comments on: the madness of the law firm hiring process http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/ Ramblings on law school in New York, free software, and the spaces in between. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:55:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24735 Luis Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:28:26 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24735 foo: I think that would be a good title for the Adam Smith post ;) Short answer is that 'no one really knows', at least not on the basis of the current hiring process. Obviously once you're hired, the answer is different. A number of metrics are available. For firms, one is 'doesn't quit unless we want them to.' foo: I think that would be a good title for the Adam Smith post ;) Short answer is that ‘no one really knows’, at least not on the basis of the current hiring process.

Obviously once you’re hired, the answer is different. A number of metrics are available. For firms, one is ‘doesn’t quit unless we want them to.’

]]> By: Matt Sayler http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24734 Matt Sayler Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:27:03 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24734 "How do you recognize a bad lawyer? [no this is not a Monty Python sketch]" Sangle a wad of benjamins in front of them and if they reach for it... “How do you recognize a bad lawyer? [no this is not a Monty Python sketch]”

Sangle a wad of benjamins in front of them and if they reach for it…

]]> By: foo http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24733 foo Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:18:17 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24733 How do you recognize a bad lawyer? [no this is not a Monty Python sketch] How do you recognize a bad lawyer? [no this is not a Monty Python sketch]

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24730 Luis Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:40:51 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24730 Matt: oh, I'm sure it is more than a lot of that, though one would think that a good hiring process would do a better job of screening for the people who will think it doesn't suck ;) Alternately, inability to find such a hiring process might be a good sign that firms themselves need fixing. (I find <a href="http://www.exemplarlaw.com/" rel="nofollow">Exemplar</a> to be a fascinating example of a potentially 'fixed' firm, though sadly they are Boston-based and I'm not going back to Boston.) [Realistically, someone here called the firm 'graduate school for lawyers'- where you actually learn to practice law, unlike law school. So you have to go.] Matt: oh, I’m sure it is more than a lot of that, though one would think that a good hiring process would do a better job of screening for the people who will think it doesn’t suck ;) Alternately, inability to find such a hiring process might be a good sign that firms themselves need fixing. (I find Exemplar to be a fascinating example of a potentially ‘fixed’ firm, though sadly they are Boston-based and I’m not going back to Boston.)

[Realistically, someone here called the firm 'graduate school for lawyers'- where you actually learn to practice law, unlike law school. So you have to go.]

]]> By: Matt Sayler http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24728 Matt Sayler Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:31:47 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24728 Or it coudl be that working for big firms sucks. :P (jaded, second-person viewpoint) Or it coudl be that working for big firms sucks.

:P

(jaded, second-person viewpoint)

]]> By: new back http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24727 new back Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:12:54 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24727 I walked once off from a huge multi-national consultancy company because of their hiring process. I just got fed up on the 3rd month of the process. It would have been a great place, and I would have likely done great results for the rest of my life there but it was not the only thing on my radar so... I have also been myself hiring in the past, and I always had the feeling that I would like to know more, even after considerable amounts of work put into the selection process. It just doesn't go away. In the end it's intuition based on facts on the paper and what the personality of the applicant is like. Care to guess indeed which one is more important? I walked once off from a huge multi-national consultancy company because of their hiring process. I just got fed up on the 3rd month of the process. It would have been a great place, and I would have likely done great results for the rest of my life there but it was not the only thing on my radar so…

I have also been myself hiring in the past, and I always had the feeling that I would like to know more, even after considerable amounts of work put into the selection process. It just doesn’t go away. In the end it’s intuition based on facts on the paper and what the personality of the applicant is like. Care to guess indeed which one is more important?

]]> By: MoJo in Boston. - AvengerMoJo's Blog http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24748 MoJo in Boston. - AvengerMoJo's Blog Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24748 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Colin Walters: The Central Question in ComputingJakub Steiner: Miro TVIĂąigo MartĂ­nez: Hacking Evince (Part I)Mirco MĂźller: visual crack with free driversJono Bacon: Dell, Ubuntu and My DadLuis Villa: the madness of the law firm hiring processThomas Thurman: productiveMichael Zucchi: Hello World.John Williams: Counting GNOME and Linux UsersEmmanuele Bassi: Flying TeapotBenjamin Otte: Too much spaceDave Neary: links for 2007-08-08Claudio Saavedra: Wed 2007/Aug/08<!--%kramer-post%--> links from Technorati Colin Walters: The Central Question in ComputingJakub Steiner: Miro TVIĂąigo MartĂ­nez: Hacking Evince (Part I)Mirco MĂźller: visual crack with free driversJono Bacon: Dell, Ubuntu and My DadLuis Villa: the madness of the law firm hiring processThomas Thurman: productiveMichael Zucchi: Hello World.John Williams: Counting GNOME and Linux UsersEmmanuele Bassi: Flying TeapotBenjamin Otte: Too much spaceDave Neary: links for 2007-08-08Claudio Saavedra: Wed 2007/Aug/08

]]> By: Open Source Fedora http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24749 Open Source Fedora Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/09/the-madness-of-the-law-firm-hiring-process/#comment-24749 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Max Spevack: friday is moving day  - Aug 9, 2007 Max Spevack: triangle linux user group  - Aug 9, 2007 Luis Villa: the madness of the law firm hiring process  - Aug 9, 2007 <!--%kramer-post%--> links from Technorati Max Spevack: friday is moving day  - Aug 9, 2007 Max Spevack: triangle linux user group  - Aug 9, 2007 Luis Villa: the madness of the law firm hiring process  - Aug 9, 2007

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