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	<title>Comments on: freedom &#8216;for users&#8217;- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-deployers, and user-consumers)</title>
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		<title>By: Your page is now on StumbleUpon!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your page is now on StumbleUpon!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AGPL posts - The Open Road - CNET News</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/07/freedom-for-users-which-users-did-you-mean-exactly-or-of-users-user-deployers-and-user-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-28872</link>
		<dc:creator>AGPL posts - The Open Road - CNET News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] But Stallman&#039;s biggest fault here is that he criticizes a problem that his own inaction created. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: A Microsoft Veteran Embraces Open Source - SuperSite Blog</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/07/freedom-for-users-which-users-did-you-mean-exactly-or-of-users-user-deployers-and-user-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-28678</link>
		<dc:creator>A Microsoft Veteran Embraces Open Source - SuperSite Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] GPL is full of contradictions ( tieguy.org/.../freedom-for-users-which-users-did-you-mean-exactly-or-of-users-user-deployers-and-use... ), and Stallman is a blowhard who has no quams about making money TALKING about free software. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa’s Blog / freedom ‘for users’- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-deployers, and user-consumers) &#124; Twine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Villa’s Blog / freedom ‘for users’- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-deployers, and user-consumers) &#124; Twine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Shared by  Elena Benito-Ruiz  to FLOSS on 10/15/2008       [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Stallman is warning *us* about cloud computing?!? &#124; The Open Road - The Business and Politics of Open Source by Matt Asay - CNET News</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/07/freedom-for-users-which-users-did-you-mean-exactly-or-of-users-user-deployers-and-user-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-28072</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Stallman is warning *us* about cloud computing?!? &#124; The Open Road - The Business and Politics of Open Source by Matt Asay - CNET News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] But Stallman&#039;s biggest fault here is that he criticizes a problem that his own inaction created. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: SunMink Without the Links</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/07/freedom-for-users-which-users-did-you-mean-exactly-or-of-users-user-deployers-and-user-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-27462</link>
		<dc:creator>SunMink Without the Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] by various companies and individuals, and discussed this with various people (most recently Luis Villa), it seems to me that there are four different roles. These [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Open Parenthesis &#187; Web 2.0 - The Power Behind the Hype</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/07/freedom-for-users-which-users-did-you-mean-exactly-or-of-users-user-deployers-and-user-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-24740</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Parenthesis &#187; Web 2.0 - The Power Behind the Hype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] SPREE: 18 Sites for Social Shopping &amp; DealsLuis Villa?s Blog / freedom ?for users?- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-depl...Web 2.0 and the CEO &#124; Perspectives &#124; CNET News.comStyleFeeder Launches Social Browsing ToolGoogle [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Phipps, SunMink: links for 2007-08-09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Phipps, SunMink: links for 2007-08-09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] freedom ‘for users’- which users did you mean, exactly? Luis Vila latches on to the same issue with defining &quot;software freedom&quot; that I tried to get at when I differentiated between &quot;co-developers&quot; and &quot;deployer-developers&quot; in the context of open source. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/07/freedom-for-users-which-users-did-you-mean-exactly-or-of-users-user-deployers-and-user-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-24731</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve posted another &#039;differently coherent&#039; response on my blog to Chris Marino&#039;s comment #13. 
http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=78</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted another &#8216;differently coherent&#8217; response on my blog to Chris Marino&#8217;s comment #13.<br />
<a href="http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=78" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=78</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: agreed that &#039;users&#039; and such are pretty terrible terms for a license; I&#039;m seeking here to understand the problem (and FSF/OSI/etc.&#039;s tepid reaction to it) more than I am to actually define solutions at this point.</description>
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