Comments on: random bloggy bits http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/ Ramblings on law school in New York, free software, and the spaces in between. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:45:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Planet Mg http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24802 Planet Mg Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:42:55 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24802 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Luis Villa gives me a beating about regaining my respect for Mark Shuttleworth’s commitment to free software. I, personally, think that Gobuntu is not a stooge distro, but it remains to be seen whether it’s actually pushed as an important thing when gutsy is released or whether it’s buried in some back alley bit of the website. I agree totally about there being no Launchpad source, indeed. As to why Shuttleworth isn’t investing in OLPC, well…you can only do so much at once. OLPC are indeed building a free software laptop. On the other hand, it’s not a free software laptop that I, Stuart, will be able to buy; someone ought to be trying to persuade people to make existing Western laptops run only free software as well. OLPC is a valuable project, indeed, but it’s not the be-all and end-all. Whether the Ubuntu/Dell deal, etc, counts as doing this depends on your point of view. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Luis Villa gives me a beating about regaining my respect for Mark Shuttleworth’s commitment to free software. I, personally, think that Gobuntu is not a stooge distro, but it remains to be seen whether it’s actually pushed as an important thing when gutsy is released or whether it’s buried in some back alley bit of the website. I agree totally about there being no Launchpad source, indeed. As to why Shuttleworth isn’t investing in OLPC, well…you can only do so much at once. OLPC are indeed building a free software laptop. On the other hand, it’s not a free software laptop that I, Stuart, will be able to buy; someone ought to be trying to persuade people to make existing Western laptops run only free software as well. OLPC is a valuable project, indeed, but it’s not the be-all and end-all. Whether the Ubuntu/Dell deal, etc, counts as doing this depends on your point of view. [...]

]]> By: as days pass by » Blog Archive » A few recent things http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24799 as days pass by » Blog Archive » A few recent things Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:08:37 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24799 [...] Luis Villa gives me a beating about regaining my respect for Mark Shuttleworth’s commitment to free software. I, personally, think that Gobuntu is not a stooge distro, but it remains to be seen whether it’s actually pushed as an important thing when gutsy is released or whether it’s buried in some back alley bit of the website. I agree totally about there being no Launchpad source, indeed. As to why Shuttleworth isn’t investing in OLPC, well…you can only do so much at once. OLPC are indeed building a free software laptop. On the other hand, it’s not a free software laptop that I, Stuart, will be able to buy; someone ought to be trying to persuade people to make existing Western laptops run only free software as well. OLPC is a valuable project, indeed, but it’s not the be-all and end-all. Whether the Ubuntu/Dell deal, etc, counts as doing this depends on your point of view. [...] [...] Luis Villa gives me a beating about regaining my respect for Mark Shuttleworth’s commitment to free software. I, personally, think that Gobuntu is not a stooge distro, but it remains to be seen whether it’s actually pushed as an important thing when gutsy is released or whether it’s buried in some back alley bit of the website. I agree totally about there being no Launchpad source, indeed. As to why Shuttleworth isn’t investing in OLPC, well…you can only do so much at once. OLPC are indeed building a free software laptop. On the other hand, it’s not a free software laptop that I, Stuart, will be able to buy; someone ought to be trying to persuade people to make existing Western laptops run only free software as well. OLPC is a valuable project, indeed, but it’s not the be-all and end-all. Whether the Ubuntu/Dell deal, etc, counts as doing this depends on your point of view. [...]

]]> By: Gregarius » Planet GNOME (14 non lus) http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24645 Gregarius » Planet GNOME (14 non lus) Wed, 01 Aug 2007 12:55:30 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24645 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Luis Villa: random bloggy bits [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Luis Villa: random bloggy bits [...]

]]> By: Matthew East http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24640 Matthew East Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:35:03 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24640 "The database layer is ‘Storm’, which is the ‘first step to open sourcing launchpad‘, aka ‘here is a little something which is completely useless but will give us something to talk about when challenged.’ The phrase ‘throw me a bone’ comes to mind." Are you saying that Canonical shouldn't have made 'storm' free software? The phrase that comes to my mind is "damned if you do, damned if you don't". Also, that page you link to doesn't actually contain the quoted text, and it's not even an accurate paraphrase. “The database layer is ‘Storm’, which is the ‘first step to open sourcing launchpad‘, aka ‘here is a little something which is completely useless but will give us something to talk about when challenged.’ The phrase ‘throw me a bone’ comes to mind.”

Are you saying that Canonical shouldn’t have made ’storm’ free software? The phrase that comes to my mind is “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”.

Also, that page you link to doesn’t actually contain the quoted text, and it’s not even an accurate paraphrase.

]]> By: Mark Gordon http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24637 Mark Gordon Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:38:16 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24637 You'll never make partner if you go around saying that rich clients are uninteresting. ;-) You’ll never make partner if you go around saying that rich clients are uninteresting. ;-)

]]> By: Justin Mason http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24635 Justin Mason Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:20:53 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24635 oh yeah, *that* database layer; I remember now. I have to agree, it seems a bit along the lines of "here's some generic utility library we had to write in the process of writing Launchpad". oh yeah, *that* database layer; I remember now.

I have to agree, it seems a bit along the lines of “here’s some generic utility library we had to write in the process of writing Launchpad”.

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24634 Luis Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:02:11 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24634 Adam: anecdotally: (1) almost every Linux user I know (now in the hundreds through RH) who uses a rich client uses thunderbird and (2) I handle hundreds of emails a day with gmail just fine. Even if I couldn't handle hundreds of emails a day with gmail, I'd still be in a tiny, tiny minority who handle that much mail- it doesn't make sense for Mozilla to focus resources on that minority when the vast majority of the world is just fine with webmail. Justin: the OLPC's techcould easily be extended to a full-size laptop, which, not coincidentally, would kick the crap out of most full-size laptops given the innovative tech in the OLPC. But that would require investing instead of talking, and sharing the spotlight with RH, neither of which Canonical is good at doing. The database layer is 'Storm', which is the '<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/news/storm-python-orm-open-sourced" rel="nofollow">first step to open sourcing launchpad</a>', aka 'here is a little something which is completely useless but will give us something to talk about when challenged.' The phrase 'throw me a bone' comes to mind. Adam: anecdotally: (1) almost every Linux user I know (now in the hundreds through RH) who uses a rich client uses thunderbird and (2) I handle hundreds of emails a day with gmail just fine. Even if I couldn’t handle hundreds of emails a day with gmail, I’d still be in a tiny, tiny minority who handle that much mail- it doesn’t make sense for Mozilla to focus resources on that minority when the vast majority of the world is just fine with webmail.

Justin: the OLPC’s techcould easily be extended to a full-size laptop, which, not coincidentally, would kick the crap out of most full-size laptops given the innovative tech in the OLPC. But that would require investing instead of talking, and sharing the spotlight with RH, neither of which Canonical is good at doing.

The database layer is ‘Storm’, which is the ‘first step to open sourcing launchpad‘, aka ‘here is a little something which is completely useless but will give us something to talk about when challenged.’ The phrase ‘throw me a bone’ comes to mind.

]]> By: Justin Mason http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24633 Justin Mason Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:20:38 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24633 hey Luis! 'Next time you hear ‘free laptop’, ask ‘why aren’t you investing in the project that is already building one?’' http://laptop.org/ is nice, but it's for use by kids in the developing world. There's a world of difference between that and my Thinkpad here. I'd love to see a Thinkpad-class piece of laptop hardware that was fully open, and who knows, I might even pay for it. What's the "database layer" you refer to, btw? hey Luis!

‘Next time you hear ‘free laptop’, ask ‘why aren’t you investing in the project that is already building one?’’

http://laptop.org/ is nice, but it’s for use by kids in the developing world. There’s a world of difference between that and my Thinkpad here. I’d love to see a Thinkpad-class piece of laptop hardware that was fully open, and who knows, I might even pay for it.

What’s the “database layer” you refer to, btw?

]]> By: Adam Williamson http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24631 Adam Williamson Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:16:12 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/07/30/random-bloggy-bits/#comment-24631 Or perhaps Thunderbird just isn't a terribly good rich client, and - unlike with Firefox - there are many established alternatives (Kmail, Evolution, Sylpheed etc in the Linux world...Eudora, The Bat! and others in the Windows world). Rich clients still kick the living shit out of webmail when used properly for large workloads. If I had to handle my mail load in webmail I would never have time to do anything else. Or perhaps Thunderbird just isn’t a terribly good rich client, and - unlike with Firefox - there are many established alternatives (Kmail, Evolution, Sylpheed etc in the Linux world…Eudora, The Bat! and others in the Windows world).

Rich clients still kick the living shit out of webmail when used properly for large workloads. If I had to handle my mail load in webmail I would never have time to do anything else.

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