Comments on: misc. post-weekend bits http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/ Ramblings on law school in New York, free software, and the spaces in between. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:32:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9237 Luis Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:45:29 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9237 Rekha: my pleasure. I'm curious as well; I think it probably has an impact on who buys them. (One could see the purchaser firing the whole exec team, for example, if the politics are poisonous enough.) Rekha: my pleasure. I’m curious as well; I think it probably has an impact on who buys them. (One could see the purchaser firing the whole exec team, for example, if the politics are poisonous enough.)

]]> By: Rekha http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9216 Rekha Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:37:01 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9216 Luis - thanks for the Diebold article. I'll make sure to track to see who they sell to, if they do. Fascinating - I'd wish I could have a window into the internal politics - who's pissed that their execs appeared to promote Republican loyalties over good business sense, even if both were at the original decision to go into voting. Also wonder how things are going in Brazil. Luis - thanks for the Diebold article. I’ll make sure to track to see who they sell to, if they do. Fascinating - I’d wish I could have a window into the internal politics - who’s pissed that their execs appeared to promote Republican loyalties over good business sense, even if both were at the original decision to go into voting. Also wonder how things are going in Brazil.

]]> By: Mark http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9107 Mark Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:03:17 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9107 Hmmm Does that mean all the linux distros are currently using closed binary wifi drivers? [KX]*ubuntu might incorporate it to give a better user experience, but not Debian. I guess I just find it odd that there is a open source bluetooth driver, but no wifi driver. Hmmm Does that mean all the linux distros are currently using closed binary wifi drivers? [KX]*ubuntu might incorporate it to give a better user experience, but not Debian.

I guess I just find it odd that there is a open source bluetooth driver, but no wifi driver.

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9073 Luis Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:41:13 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9073 Apparently the lack of wifi is a FAQ for them. <a href="http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_rationale_behind_the_exclusion_of_WiFi.3F" rel="nofollow">answer to the FAQ.</a> Apparently the lack of wifi is a FAQ for them. answer to the FAQ.

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9066 Luis Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:57:56 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9066 Cool. Tell Paul thanks for doing it! :) Certainly not EE156, which I didn't take, though possible it was another class- I took at least a handful of CS classes your sophomore year (when I was a fifth-year senior theoretically focusing on my polisci thesis.) Cool. Tell Paul thanks for doing it! :)

Certainly not EE156, which I didn’t take, though possible it was another class- I took at least a handful of CS classes your sophomore year (when I was a fifth-year senior theoretically focusing on my polisci thesis.)

]]> By: Mark http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9065 Mark Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:52:45 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9065 db hoops guy (Paul) was my roommate at Duke (and best man at my wedding =) His stats are excellent with some great analysis. Its really great to be able to objectively look at game performance when comparing teams. Actually... weren't you in my EE156 class or some other EE class? I think I remember working a lab with you downstairs in Hudson... (I'm a little hazy... I could be wrong). db hoops guy (Paul) was my roommate at Duke (and best man at my wedding =) His stats are excellent with some great analysis. Its really great to be able to objectively look at game performance when comparing teams.

Actually… weren’t you in my EE156 class or some other EE class? I think I remember working a lab with you downstairs in Hudson… (I’m a little hazy… I could be wrong).

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9064 Luis Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:24:51 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9064 <i>I would guess it has more to do with outgoing broadcast signal strength</i> I believe you're right, though take me with a grain of salt- consider me a dumb lawyer with a polisci degree for the purposes anything having to do with EM ;) <i>Isn't the whole purpose of the n800 to have a constant connection to the internet?</i> I use it in the subway quite a bit for casual reading and music, so I try to turn it off when I'm in the subway/walking around. As far as greenphone... I'd expect that if the problem was with the FCC, apple would happily have blamed the FCC for their choice not to make the iPhone an open platform. More to the point, I don't really care what OS/toolkit my phone runs if it is proprietary/effectively proprietary. At that point, the distinction has to be made on functionality- which means I either want a motofone f3 or an iphone. :) (BTW- you know the dbdhoops guy? Cool. He does great stuff.) I would guess it has more to do with outgoing broadcast signal strength

I believe you’re right, though take me with a grain of salt- consider me a dumb lawyer with a polisci degree for the purposes anything having to do with EM ;)

Isn’t the whole purpose of the n800 to have a constant connection to the internet?

I use it in the subway quite a bit for casual reading and music, so I try to turn it off when I’m in the subway/walking around.

As far as greenphone… I’d expect that if the problem was with the FCC, apple would happily have blamed the FCC for their choice not to make the iPhone an open platform. More to the point, I don’t really care what OS/toolkit my phone runs if it is proprietary/effectively proprietary. At that point, the distinction has to be made on functionality- which means I either want a motofone f3 or an iphone. :)

(BTW- you know the dbdhoops guy? Cool. He does great stuff.)

]]> By: Mark http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9063 Mark Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:13:40 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9063 I'm not sure I quite understand the engineering behind why WiFi is such a drain, yet GPRS or any other cellular technology doesn't. I remember going over the latter in a computer network architecture class (EE156), but I don't think we went over any version of WiFi. I would guess it has more to do with outgoing broadcast signal strength than with processing power required. Isn't the whole purpose of the n800 to have a constant connection to the internet? I agree, the greenphone's license is a significant drawback (definitely non-free). I guess I'm just skeptical that a network provider (tmobile, the-company-formerly-known-as-at&t-who-is-now-on-a-reunion-tour -with-itself, verizon, etc) letting a consumer controlled device on their network. From David's comments, possibly the FCC might have some say in this. Though I'm too jaded with the FCC to believe they will be of any help in this. I’m not sure I quite understand the engineering behind why WiFi is such a drain, yet GPRS or any other cellular technology doesn’t. I remember going over the latter in a computer network architecture class (EE156), but I don’t think we went over any version of WiFi. I would guess it has more to do with outgoing broadcast signal strength than with processing power required. Isn’t the whole purpose of the n800 to have a constant connection to the internet?

I agree, the greenphone’s license is a significant drawback (definitely non-free). I guess I’m just skeptical that a network provider (tmobile, the-company-formerly-known-as-at&t-who-is-now-on-a-reunion-tour -with-itself, verizon, etc) letting a consumer controlled device on their network. From David’s comments, possibly the FCC might have some say in this. Though I’m too jaded with the FCC to believe they will be of any help in this.

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9060 Luis Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:20:21 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9060 I have not looked at the greenphone in a while; there was some reason that I flipped the bozo bit on it but I don't remember what it was- probably licensing related? Wifi is a big battery drain, I believe- I get vastly better battery performance from my n800, for example, when wireless is disabled. <i>What is the relationship between these open source phones and the network providers?</i> Not clear. David Weinberger suggests the <a href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/ef2c_openmoko_opensource_phone.html" rel="nofollow">moko might not be available in the US at all</a> because of the providers- have asked him for clarification on that. I have not looked at the greenphone in a while; there was some reason that I flipped the bozo bit on it but I don’t remember what it was- probably licensing related?

Wifi is a big battery drain, I believe- I get vastly better battery performance from my n800, for example, when wireless is disabled.

What is the relationship between these open source phones and the network providers?

Not clear. David Weinberger suggests the moko might not be available in the US at all because of the providers- have asked him for clarification on that.

]]> By: Mark http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9058 Mark Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:05:41 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/03/06/misc-post-weekend-bits/#comment-9058 How do you think Trolltech's <a href="http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone/index" rel="nofollow">Qtopia Greenphone</a> fits into all this? As far as I can tell, the greenphone isn't destined to be a consumer device (just a development platform??), where it sounds like openmoko will. I was a little surprised to read that openmoko's phone (Neo1973) won't contain a wi-fi implementation... There is an open source bluetooth stack but no wi-fi stack? What is the relationship between these open source phones and the network providers? How do you think Trolltech’s Qtopia Greenphone fits into all this? As far as I can tell, the greenphone isn’t destined to be a consumer device (just a development platform??), where it sounds like openmoko will.

I was a little surprised to read that openmoko’s phone (Neo1973) won’t contain a wi-fi implementation… There is an open source bluetooth stack but no wi-fi stack?

What is the relationship between these open source phones and the network providers?

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