Comments on: quick thoughts on novell, blogs as journalism, etc. http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/ Ramblings on law school in New York, free software, and the spaces in between. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:42:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: OpenOffice.org Forum at OOoForum.org :: View topic - OO 2.04 and MS O 2007 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-24288 OpenOffice.org Forum at OOoForum.org :: View topic - OO 2.04 and MS O 2007 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:00:40 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-24288 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2006/Dec-04.html http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/ http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=838 [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2006/Dec-04.html http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/ http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=838 [...]

]]> By: Lloyd Budd http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4569 Lloyd Budd Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:10:45 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4569 Nat rocks and is well desiring of many awards! But was <a href="http://www.varbusiness.com/article/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=196513353" rel="nofollow">that VARbusiness article</a> written about a parallel universe? Nat and Ximian essential for the successes of GNOME -- definitely. But that article makes it sound like he have done it all with himself with a "Buddhist mind-cleansing". "Friedman is the man behind SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED) 10, the first practical graphical interface and integrated application for the popular open-source operating system" Oh right, VAR, Value Added Resellers, maybe that is a parallel universe, a universe of middle people and sales pitches? Nat rocks and is well desiring of many awards!

But was that VARbusiness article written about a parallel universe?

Nat and Ximian essential for the successes of GNOME — definitely. But that article makes it sound like he have done it all with himself with a “Buddhist mind-cleansing”.

“Friedman is the man behind SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED) 10, the first practical graphical interface and integrated application for the popular open-source operating system”

Oh right, VAR, Value Added Resellers, maybe that is a parallel universe, a universe of middle people and sales pitches?

]]> By: Tim http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4549 Tim Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:22:18 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4549 Luis, you're not a journalist, and as a blogger you absolutely don't have an obligation to call Ubuntu before you ask a question about their patent policy. Blogs have much more robust feedback mechanisms that traditional journalistic endeavors. For one thing, anyone from Ubuntu is welcome to post a comment below your post explaining Ubuntu's patent policy. For another, you can (and I assume--would) post an update to the original post if it were discovered that Ubuntu has a patent policy you missed. Moreover, you made it abundantly clear that you'd done no fact checking: "that I can find", "as far as I can tell", "Am I overlooking something?" No reasonable person would interpret that as you reporting as fact that Ubuntu has no patent policy. Luis, you’re not a journalist, and as a blogger you absolutely don’t have an obligation to call Ubuntu before you ask a question about their patent policy. Blogs have much more robust feedback mechanisms that traditional journalistic endeavors. For one thing, anyone from Ubuntu is welcome to post a comment below your post explaining Ubuntu’s patent policy. For another, you can (and I assume–would) post an update to the original post if it were discovered that Ubuntu has a patent policy you missed.

Moreover, you made it abundantly clear that you’d done no fact checking: “that I can find”, “as far as I can tell”, “Am I overlooking something?” No reasonable person would interpret that as you reporting as fact that Ubuntu has no patent policy.

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4548 Luis Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:16:52 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4548 I've started to skim it... oy. Is it bad that Novell is trying to circumvent the intent of the GPL? Certainly. Is it part of some giant conspiracy, playing footsie with SCO? I... sigh. I'd try to pick it apart point by point, but there isn't much substance there- all one can do is state the obvious- Novell found an honest loophole, used it, has sued no one, and has contributed millions of dollars worth of code to the community; SCO wove a web of lies, created legal theories that should get some people disbarred, sued both users and contributors, and created nothing of value itself. Are Novell's actions potentially tactically damaging to all of us? Yes, I think so. Are they in violation of the spirit of the GPL? Definitely. Despite those things, if you can't tell the difference between Novell and SCO, you need to have your head examined. (And no, I didn't finish the whole thing, because about a page in, I decided I had better things to do with my life, like sleep. Sorry, PJ, but you've lost credibility, and that is really hard to get back.) I’ve started to skim it… oy. Is it bad that Novell is trying to circumvent the intent of the GPL? Certainly. Is it part of some giant conspiracy, playing footsie with SCO? I… sigh. I’d try to pick it apart point by point, but there isn’t much substance there- all one can do is state the obvious- Novell found an honest loophole, used it, has sued no one, and has contributed millions of dollars worth of code to the community; SCO wove a web of lies, created legal theories that should get some people disbarred, sued both users and contributors, and created nothing of value itself. Are Novell’s actions potentially tactically damaging to all of us? Yes, I think so. Are they in violation of the spirit of the GPL? Definitely. Despite those things, if you can’t tell the difference between Novell and SCO, you need to have your head examined.

(And no, I didn’t finish the whole thing, because about a page in, I decided I had better things to do with my life, like sleep. Sorry, PJ, but you’ve lost credibility, and that is really hard to get back.)

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4542 Luis Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:17:53 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4542 (And no matter how good it is, and no matter how right she is (she may well be) she still loses credibility for the false allegations in the earlier article.) (And no matter how good it is, and no matter how right she is (she may well be) she still loses credibility for the false allegations in the earlier article.)

]]> By: Luis http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4541 Luis Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:17:02 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4541 I've not had time to read it and likely won't until Saturday. I’ve not had time to read it and likely won’t until Saturday.

]]> By: jamienk http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4540 jamienk Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:12:45 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4540 I think PJ has redeemed herself with http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061203015212989 -- don't you? I think that she earlier was getting frustrated, and wrote one article (the one you mention) where she was sloppy with her rhetoric. But her latest article explains very clearly (and not at all FUD-ly) why the Novell deal is very bad. I find it completely convincing. What do you think? I think PJ has redeemed herself with http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061203015212989 — don’t you? I think that she earlier was getting frustrated, and wrote one article (the one you mention) where she was sloppy with her rhetoric. But her latest article explains very clearly (and not at all FUD-ly) why the Novell deal is very bad. I find it completely convincing. What do you think?

]]> By: stephen o'grady http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4535 stephen o'grady Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:31:28 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4535 sorry about the bad news. on the journalism front, i don't agree. it can be helpful, but i don't believe that you have a "responsibility" to do so. sorry about the bad news.

on the journalism front, i don’t agree. it can be helpful, but i don’t believe that you have a “responsibility” to do so.

]]> By: links for 2006-12-06 at tecosystems http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4522 links for 2006-12-06 at tecosystems Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:31:02 +0000 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/12/05/quick-thoughts-on-novell-blogs-as-journalism-etc/#comment-4522 [...] Luis Villa’s Blog » quick thoughts on novell, blogs as journalism, etc. Luis’ also debunks the “forking” call re: Novell and OO.o (tags: OO.o Novell Villa ODF MSXML) [...] [...] Luis Villa’s Blog » quick thoughts on novell, blogs as journalism, etc. Luis’ also debunks the “forking” call re: Novell and OO.o (tags: OO.o Novell Villa ODF MSXML) [...]

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