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	<title>Comments on: some ponderings on emperor linux (and more pre-packaged linux in general)</title>
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		<title>By: KingPin</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingPin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 13:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use a Dell E1705, purchased about a year ago, for routine work. I needed a linux distro on there so I can compile a binary for software I was working on so i decided to run ubuntu on there as I use it on my home PC as a dual boot and at work on our servers. I had a CD of ubuntu edgy handy and I used it to install.  The install was flawless and I was online with wireless DHCP as soon as install was done and using everything else normally like I did before with windows. I upgraded to fiesty fawn now and the upgrade went flawlessly, all components still work and everything runs great :) I personally wouldn&#039;t bother buying a custom kernel distro just for the sake of buying it but only if it was a viable choice that provided functionality a regular distro didnt. if I have a problem with my current laptop install I know there are thousands of people out there using the same vanilla ubuntu who might be able to help in some way, with a customized kernel the track record of companies that sell it is hit / miss. sometimes they know just what to do other times they dont.... just my opinion :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a Dell E1705, purchased about a year ago, for routine work. I needed a linux distro on there so I can compile a binary for software I was working on so i decided to run ubuntu on there as I use it on my home PC as a dual boot and at work on our servers. I had a CD of ubuntu edgy handy and I used it to install.  The install was flawless and I was online with wireless DHCP as soon as install was done and using everything else normally like I did before with windows. I upgraded to fiesty fawn now and the upgrade went flawlessly, all components still work and everything runs great :) I personally wouldn&#8217;t bother buying a custom kernel distro just for the sake of buying it but only if it was a viable choice that provided functionality a regular distro didnt. if I have a problem with my current laptop install I know there are thousands of people out there using the same vanilla ubuntu who might be able to help in some way, with a customized kernel the track record of companies that sell it is hit / miss. sometimes they know just what to do other times they dont&#8230;. just my opinion :)</p>
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		<title>By: OSNews.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>OSNews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] has wrote an interesting entry in his blog, explaining why it is in Linux&#039;s best interest that distribution communities seek out small Linux OEM companies and help them in providing the best Linux experience possible. &quot;Obviously it is in RH, Canonical, [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To follow up to Jeff&#039;s comment, for the sake of those who find this blog via google: Since my initial mixed experience, Emperor have been pros with my irregular yet demanding support requests, and very helpful. Assuming they&#039;ve fixed some of the problems I&#039;ve had, I&#039;d recommend them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up to Jeff&#8217;s comment, for the sake of those who find this blog via google: Since my initial mixed experience, Emperor have been pros with my irregular yet demanding support requests, and very helpful. Assuming they&#8217;ve fixed some of the problems I&#8217;ve had, I&#8217;d recommend them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of friends that purchase their laptops from Emperor Linux and these friends know what they are doing, one being a linux programmer the other a consultant and security expert.  They both recommended that I buy my next laptop from Emperor Linux.  The past three weeks I&#039;ve called Emperor Linux and they have been excellent at answering my questions even when I wasn&#039;t a paying customer.  I&#039;ve ordered four Rhinos (Dell) this past week and am excitedly awaiting there arrival.  Their courtesy, intelligence and thoughtful answers give me confidence that in the future when I need technical assistance they will provide it well.

I will be using fedora core 6.0 as I am switching from SuSE 10.2 since Novell has become cozy with Windoze.

Call Emperor Linux and ask them some questions.  I think you will be pleasantly surprised with their support.  In the past I&#039;ve purchased four Dells.  The machines are great but their support is off in India and I&#039;ve never found the help for which I asked.  This won&#039;t be the case with EL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of friends that purchase their laptops from Emperor Linux and these friends know what they are doing, one being a linux programmer the other a consultant and security expert.  They both recommended that I buy my next laptop from Emperor Linux.  The past three weeks I&#8217;ve called Emperor Linux and they have been excellent at answering my questions even when I wasn&#8217;t a paying customer.  I&#8217;ve ordered four Rhinos (Dell) this past week and am excitedly awaiting there arrival.  Their courtesy, intelligence and thoughtful answers give me confidence that in the future when I need technical assistance they will provide it well.</p>
<p>I will be using fedora core 6.0 as I am switching from SuSE 10.2 since Novell has become cozy with Windoze.</p>
<p>Call Emperor Linux and ask them some questions.  I think you will be pleasantly surprised with their support.  In the past I&#8217;ve purchased four Dells.  The machines are great but their support is off in India and I&#8217;ve never found the help for which I asked.  This won&#8217;t be the case with EL.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worked personally with the Emperor Linux staff and have nothing but great things to say about them.  I&#039;ve seen a laptop perform with a recent distro and THERE customized version, and there is no doubt that there version looked noticably sharper and ran very well.  Frankly, they can do a better job with their expertise and specialization than a generic distro.

For both the novice and the expert linux user, I saw excellent value in using Emperor especially for hardware costing a couple thousand.  I want everything to look and work right and frankly, even with two weeks of my time, I&#039;d still have a couple nagging issues to deal with on a more sluggish kernel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked personally with the Emperor Linux staff and have nothing but great things to say about them.  I&#8217;ve seen a laptop perform with a recent distro and THERE customized version, and there is no doubt that there version looked noticably sharper and ran very well.  Frankly, they can do a better job with their expertise and specialization than a generic distro.</p>
<p>For both the novice and the expert linux user, I saw excellent value in using Emperor especially for hardware costing a couple thousand.  I want everything to look and work right and frankly, even with two weeks of my time, I&#8217;d still have a couple nagging issues to deal with on a more sluggish kernel.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL: works here; note that you have to be pressing on the screen, not just floating above it, to have it work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL: works here; note that you have to be pressing on the screen, not just floating above it, to have it work.</p>
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		<title>By: jldugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>jldugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone gotten GNOME to right click with a pen?  Either there&#039;s some simple configuration I&#039;m missing here, or it just doesn&#039;t do it yet. I&#039;ve found a bug reported to GIMP complaining that the pen brings up right click menu, so it seems feasible at least =/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone gotten GNOME to right click with a pen?  Either there&#8217;s some simple configuration I&#8217;m missing here, or it just doesn&#8217;t do it yet. I&#8217;ve found a bug reported to GIMP complaining that the pen brings up right click menu, so it seems feasible at least =/</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff: that&#039;s great to hear; had not been aware of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: that&#8217;s great to hear; had not been aware of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schroeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis, you are incorrect in someways. Take a look at how well System76 and Ubuntu get along. The core ubuntu team helped System76 fix some x breakage fairly recently

http://www.system76.com/
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=678b07f6a3c75b3d4d1b1609024090fa&amp;f=158</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis, you are incorrect in someways. Take a look at how well System76 and Ubuntu get along. The core ubuntu team helped System76 fix some x breakage fairly recently</p>
<p><a href="http://www.system76.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.system76.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=678b07f6a3c75b3d4d1b1609024090fa&amp;f=158" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=678b07f6a3c75b3d4d1b1609024090fa&amp;f=158</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a good experience buying a machine with Ubuntu pre-installed from Groovix ( http://groovix.com/ ), and if was in the market for a laptop, I&#039;d probably go back to them to get it, just to avoid having to configure everything myself.  Well, except that I ended up replacing Ubuntu with Debian on the machine I have, so I don&#039;t really know what buying another machine with Ubuntu pre-installed would save me if I&#039;m going to end up replacing it again.  I guess I could at least be assured that I&#039;m getting a laptop with components that are Linux compatible.  If you&#039;re Red Hat or Canonical, and you&#039;re trying to get companies to look at your software and services, do you really want to be pushing hardware also?  Isn&#039;t one of the selling points of Linux that it runs well on commodity hardware?  The consumer/retail market is too small and too fragmented, and probably will remain so.  Unless the &quot;one distro to rule them all&quot; comes along, I don&#039;t see the situation changing.  But at least you *can* buy a computer with Linux pre-installed, and from a lot of different sources, even if they are mostly smallish companies.  That wasn&#039;t the case a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a good experience buying a machine with Ubuntu pre-installed from Groovix ( <a href="http://groovix.com/" rel="nofollow">http://groovix.com/</a> ), and if was in the market for a laptop, I&#8217;d probably go back to them to get it, just to avoid having to configure everything myself.  Well, except that I ended up replacing Ubuntu with Debian on the machine I have, so I don&#8217;t really know what buying another machine with Ubuntu pre-installed would save me if I&#8217;m going to end up replacing it again.  I guess I could at least be assured that I&#8217;m getting a laptop with components that are Linux compatible.  If you&#8217;re Red Hat or Canonical, and you&#8217;re trying to get companies to look at your software and services, do you really want to be pushing hardware also?  Isn&#8217;t one of the selling points of Linux that it runs well on commodity hardware?  The consumer/retail market is too small and too fragmented, and probably will remain so.  Unless the &#8220;one distro to rule them all&#8221; comes along, I don&#8217;t see the situation changing.  But at least you *can* buy a computer with Linux pre-installed, and from a lot of different sources, even if they are mostly smallish companies.  That wasn&#8217;t the case a few years ago.</p>
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