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	<title>Comments on: guadec thoughts #2: client development platforms and the web</title>
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		<title>By: Megginson Technologies: Quoderat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Data matters more than Open Source</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-21004</link>
		<dc:creator>Megginson Technologies: Quoderat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Data matters more than Open Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 19:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://tieguy.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] <a href="http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/" rel="nofollow">http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike&#8217;s Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; on platforms</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-5450</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike&#8217;s Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; on platforms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Luis Villa articulated one side to this long before I really understood it, which just goes to show that he&#8217;s smarter than me and in about 5 years I&#8217;ll probably wish I&#8217;d gone to law school. Some things are easy to do with web apps, and hard or impossible to do with client side apps. Of course the opposite is also true, but in general, when an app can be implemented as a web app, it usually is. This says to me that most people prefer it if they can get it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Luis Villa articulated one side to this long before I really understood it, which just goes to show that he&#8217;s smarter than me and in about 5 years I&#8217;ll probably wish I&#8217;d gone to law school. Some things are easy to do with web apps, and hard or impossible to do with client side apps. Of course the opposite is also true, but in general, when an app can be implemented as a web app, it usually is. This says to me that most people prefer it if they can get it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Cliffs of Inanity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gnome Deployment</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-2737</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cliffs of Inanity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gnome Deployment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was reading about Gnome 3.0 recently (and I&#8217;m working on a long post about it), when I ran across a post by Luis Villa about Gnome versus web development. (BTW you should read his blog if you don&#8217;t already.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was reading about Gnome 3.0 recently (and I&#8217;m working on a long post about it), when I ran across a post by Luis Villa about Gnome versus web development. (BTW you should read his blog if you don&#8217;t already.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog &#187; guadec thoughts #5: the portland emperor has no pants</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa&#8217;s Blog &#187; guadec thoughts #5: the portland emperor has no pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ** see guadec thoughts #2 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ** see guadec thoughts #2 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AbiWord Community Outreach Project &#187; Radio and print (well, blog&#8230;)</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-1251</link>
		<dc:creator>AbiWord Community Outreach Project &#187; Radio and print (well, blog&#8230;)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 01:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also with regard to AbiCollab, we got name-dropped on Luis Villa&#8217;s blog, syndicated on Planet Gnome.  I sent him (and the dev list) an email with more information, and have included here both my message and his reply on the AbiWord dev list! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also with regard to AbiCollab, we got name-dropped on Luis Villa&#8217;s blog, syndicated on Planet Gnome.  I sent him (and the dev list) an email with more information, and have included here both my message and his reply on the AbiWord dev list! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Linksvayer &#187; Constitutionally open services</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Linksvayer &#187; Constitutionally open services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 07:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Luis Villa provokes, in a good way: Someone who I respect a lot told me at GUADEC ‘open source is doomed’. He believed that the small-ish apps we tend to do pretty well will migrate to the web, increasing the capital costs of delivering good software and giving next-gen proprietary companies like Google even greater advantages than current-gen proprietary companies like MS. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Luis Villa provokes, in a good way: Someone who I respect a lot told me at GUADEC ‘open source is doomed’. He believed that the small-ish apps we tend to do pretty well will migrate to the web, increasing the capital costs of delivering good software and giving next-gen proprietary companies like Google even greater advantages than current-gen proprietary companies like MS. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems » because technology is just another ecosystem</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-8438</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems » because technology is just another ecosystem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;not, IMO, VMs like Java's or Mono's or multi-platform GUI toolkits such as GTK or QT, but the approach variously described by terms such as Software-as-a-Service or web based software. I do not happen to agree with Luis' anonymous contact from GUADEC who claimed that 'open source is doomed' because of the steady migration of applications to the web, but I believe do believe the objection is sustained rather than overruled. As Havoc, Luis and the others plan the future of GNOME - and other vendors and projects&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>not, IMO, VMs like Java&#8217;s or Mono&#8217;s or multi-platform GUI toolkits such as GTK or QT, but the approach variously described by terms such as Software-as-a-Service or web based software. I do not happen to agree with Luis&#8217; anonymous contact from GUADEC who claimed that &#8216;open source is doomed&#8217; because of the steady migration of applications to the web, but I believe do believe the objection is sustained rather than overruled. As Havoc, Luis and the others plan the future of GNOME - and other vendors and projects</p>
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		<title>By: as days pass by</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-8439</link>
		<dc:creator>as days pass by</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;  Luis Villa is entirely right in asking where “our” flickr/blogger/online-storage place is. We talked about this a bit at Guadec (and about “gnome on rails” (which has nothing to do with Ruby, but is about being able to build Gnome apps really quickly and agilely, as you can build web apps). I keep thinking about doing something like this, but there are so many other projects that need doing!&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>  Luis Villa is entirely right in asking where “our” flickr/blogger/online-storage place is. We talked about this a bit at Guadec (and about “gnome on rails” (which has nothing to do with Ruby, but is about being able to build Gnome apps really quickly and agilely, as you can build web apps). I keep thinking about doing something like this, but there are so many other projects that need doing!</p>
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		<title>By: Log for October, 2006</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-8440</link>
		<dc:creator>Log for October, 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;great posts from Luis.    I mentioned it in passing a few posts ago, but I still think the "what is gnome?" on www.gnome.org could use a lot of work: "GNOME offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer."&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>great posts from Luis.    I mentioned it in passing a few posts ago, but I still think the &#8220;what is gnome?&#8221; on <a href="http://www.gnome.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnome.org</a> could use a lot of work: &#8220;GNOME offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Open Source Pimp &#124; Open Source and Linux, breaking news of the day</title>
		<link>http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-2-client-development-platforms-and-the-web/#comment-8441</link>
		<dc:creator>The Open Source Pimp &#124; Open Source and Linux, breaking news of the day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;greatpostsfrom Luis.  I mentioned it in passing a few posts ago, but I still think the"what is gnome?" on www.gnome.org could use a lot of work:"GNOME offers an easy to understanddesktop for your Linux or UNIX computer."&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>greatpostsfrom Luis.  I mentioned it in passing a few posts ago, but I still think the&#8221;what is gnome?&#8221; on <a href="http://www.gnome.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnome.org</a> could use a lot of work:&#8221;GNOME offers an easy to understanddesktop for your Linux or UNIX computer.&#8221;</p>
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